Hrrm it now seems that I need to take off at nine, could we maybe try to be there at 10 till nine? In any case if we don't have enough on before I have to leave, I can leave Kazaba logged in, so if someone is there early I can show them the registration guy, give them some of the silver to pay for it and stay grouped with them until we have six folks. I'll also be on at about 10