Keepers of Fortitude - Saryrn / Bertoxxulous

Aye Nizelar, I remember that!  I've played a druid since my first days of AD&D because they were so versatile.

Still alot of fun solo!

Not saying anything negative, but I took some notes last night while soloing in DL.

In three hours -

 (4) shouts from groups wanting a cleric
 (1) shout from group wanting healer/preferably cleric
 (1) shout from group wanting healer

That's all the shouts for people in groups looking for members.

Just an observation....

hehe.. I wasn't laughing at ya Air!  It just seems like Verant is having some Class Identity Crisises at the moment.

As a monk I'd love to be able to take on blues myself!  Admittedly I am among the gimpiest when it comes to armor and whatnot, but I find myself getting beat down regularly when soloing.  

And your right, I've never played a cleric.  I've often wished I had one in a group when the druid ran out of mana and couldn't heal me, but that's about the extent of my cleric knowledge.  The reason for that though, is that I enjoy soloing much and have always thought of a cleric as a grouping character exclusively.

So what I'm seeing now is that clerics are gonna be meleeing, druids are gonna be healing, pigs are gonna be flying, and my whole EQ world is falling apart!

Sigh....  I hope they give us monks some new spells soon...

I agree with Tonz 101%!  

I played a druid to level 39 and then got sick of waiting an hour or more to get a group - in freaking Dreadlands!  It was so frustrating that I quit playing EQ altogether for a month or so.  Like Tonz, I think my druid makes a nice mule, and I'm glad I have him for those things.  

The idea that clerics will now be overlooked for a druid is laughable.  I say that from a melee and from a druid perspective.  If I'm fighting in a group, I'll take a cleric over a druid for healing anyday.

I'm not sure I understand the idea that clerics should have more soloing ability either.   By definition a cleric is a group character.  I back that up with quotes directly from Allakahzam's website.

These are quotes straight from the cleric class description page:

"This is the most popular class in Everquest.  Not for people trying to play them, but for people trying to group with them.  Clerics rarely have difficulty finding a group.  If you play a Cleric you will have lots of friends, since a Cleric is an absolute must for a well balanced party."

"Clerics are able to wear full plate armor, giving them a level of protection unmatched by other spell casters. "

"This is a class for the person who likes to socialize and wants to be welcomed wherever he goes. "

In my opinion, and that's just it, an opinion - giving Clerics more solo ability is a bit like giving a monk more casting ability.  Just weird!

Thanks Folks!  Two years of playing and I've never had a character with a last name.  I could never really find one that fits.

Well no more... I'd like you to meet:

 

Johnray Bootieshaker

It's like with the quests.  I could have someone just give me the stuff, but would that give me that excitement, that sense of accomplishment that drives me to do the Nearly Naked EQ Dance of Victory for my girlfriend?  No.

Like I always say.... if a game doesn't make you want to do the Nearly Naked Victory Dance for your loved ones, then what's the use in playing?

Deep in thought...

ROFL... Johnray a twink?  ROFL... I invite anyone to right click and inspect my poor gimpy monk equipment.  The absolute only thing I did that might be considered twinking was borrowing COTs at lvl 17.  I've still got mostly Wus armor!  

So if anyone is feeling sorry for me now, feel free to give me stuff.  Don't worry, I won't consider it cheating... ;)

I'm the buddy he's referring to here.  The argument is actually pretty pointless, simply because as Airelyn pointed out, it is up to the individual.

I have several characters that were PLed and twinked, and I enjoyed playing them at first.  Over time though, I found that I got bored with them quickly and I really got no sense of accomplishment from playing them.  

The argument is actually about the word "cheating".  When playing a new character I said that I consider it cheating  to PL or twink that character, beyond giving a few plat for new spells.  Tonz disagreed and said that it was not cheating.  I said it is cheating for me, not necessarily for anyone else.  By twinking or PL I am cheating myself of what I enjoy most about the game - the sense of accomplishment.  

I get no enjoyment out of running around whacking reds one time with a 40+ weapon and watching them die without losing a bulb of health.  I'm also not impressed that a twink can get to level 13 in one night of playing.  Of course they can!  When a twink tells me how bad arse their lvl 10 is because he can pummel three reds at a time without losing a bulb that doesn't make me ooh or ahhh.  The weapons or armor might be bad arse, but the skills sure aren't!  

But it all comes back to the word "cheating".  If I twinked, I'd be cheating myself, so therefore "cheating" is the correct term for me to use there.  If someone enjoys twinking out and levelling like crazy, then it's not cheating to them, and they should by all means do that.  Have fun!  That's what it's all about.

BTW - Tonz and I work together and play EQ most nights together, so we spend about 13-15 hours a day talking to each other.  We argue about everything, this is just our latest...   ask him about the Pledge of Allegiance sometime.... hehe...

Blessings!

Johnray the Barely Twinked